The Business of Fashion Podcast
Nike's Jordan Brand Crisis and the Search for Its Next Cultural Moment
Summarised from Why Nike Can’t Find Its Next Hit
The Royal Jordan 1 sitting on shelves and selling below retail signals a fundamental shift in sneaker culture where Nike’s decades-long strategy of reselling vintage silhouettes no longer drives demand the way it once did.
Summary of Why Nike Can’t Find Its Next Hit. Every timestamp links into the original audio.
The short version
00:01:33— Nike’s recent re-release of the Black and Blue Air Jordan 1 Royal generated minimal enthusiasm, with the shoe remaining available in multiple sizes days after launch and some pairs trading below retail on resale markets.00:04:33— Nike appears uncertain about what consumers want from the brand now, as the classic retro styles that worked five to ten years ago are no longer fashionable and the company lacks a clear direction on what will capture consumer interest.00:05:58— Nike CEO Elliot Hill acknowledged that the brand oversaturated the market with retro silhouettes, particularly Jordans, and announced plans to reduce the frequency of releases like the Royal model to rebuild scarcity and desirability.00:07:26— Virgil Abloh’s The Ten collaboration succeeded by combining limited availability with genuine innovation, featuring subtle design tweaks across multiple classic Nike silhouettes that made them feel both familiar and fresh at a cultural moment when Off-White was gaining momentum.00:12:19— Greg Betty, hired to lead Jordan Brand’s streetwear division, has successfully created culturally resonant designs at Vans by pulling inspiration from diverse cultural spheres, and early Jordan releases under his direction, like an all-black triple pack of the 14, 15, and 16, have sold through completely.00:17:50— Women’s basketball shoes, particularly from Caitlin Clark and A’ja Wilson, are showing crossover potential beyond the court, with their signature models selling out in multiple colorways due to their engaged fan bases.00:20:36— Running is emerging as a bright spot for Nike with double-digit sales growth in recent earnings, though the brand faces stiff competition and lost cultural momentum when an Adidas runner officially broke the two-hour marathon record.00:23:15— Nike’s Zen Mules have become among the brand’s most coveted recent releases, with the original model remaining difficult to purchase despite being a non-sneaker product, suggesting strong consumer interest in the recovery category.00:26:21— Nike’s current troubles stem partly from mismanagement of key franchises like the Dunk, Jordan 1, and Air Force 1 that became oversaturated, combined with cutting off relationships with retailers like Foot Locker and Finish Line that historically built the brand in local communities.00:28:37— The aftermarket price premium on sneaker resales serves as a key indicator of true consumer demand, with the Royal Jordan 1 selling for retail prices on StockX and eBay rather than commanding markups, suggesting weak brand desirability that could take years to reverse.
In depth
Why the Royal Jordan flop is more than one bad drop
Sheena opens with a telling detail: the Black and Blue Air Jordan 1 Royal, a shoe Mike Sykes notes already has a release history going back to 2017, sat on shelves for days after its relaunch and traded below retail on resale platforms 00:01:33. What makes this notable isn’t that it’s a weak silhouette — Sykes argues the opposite, crediting colleague Leigh Takenashi with the observation that this shoe carries enough lore among Jordan purists that it should sell through almost automatically, hype-beast interest or not 00:03:51. The fact that it didn’t is precisely why he treats it as a diagnostic case rather than a one-off miss.
The deeper claim Sykes makes is that Nike doesn’t currently know what its customer wants 00:04:33. He’s careful to qualify this: certain pockets are working — ACG-adjacent running product, niche super shoes for serious runners, the Nike Mind clog as a left-field hit — but none of it is proliferating widely enough to anchor the brand’s identity. That’s a meaningfully different diagnosis than simply saying demand is soft across the board; it suggests Nike has lost the ability to predict which bets will catch fire, which is a harder problem than low interest in any single shoe.
CEO Elliot Hill has effectively conceded the mechanism behind the slump: the company flooded the market with retro Jordan colorways until scarcity and desirability eroded, and he’s announced a deliberate pullback on releases like the Royal to rebuild both 00:05:58. Sykes is only half convinced this fixes anything. He frames scarcity as necessary but insufficient — a way to stop the bleeding rather than a cure — because an oversaturated market of colorways nobody is actually wearing doesn’t become desirable again just by releasing less of it 00:14:22. The unresolved tension he leaves hanging is that pulling back doesn’t answer what’s supposed to fill the gap in attention that heavy retro releases used to occupy.
The Virgil Abloh benchmark, and why it can’t be replicated on demand
Sykes repeatedly returns to Virgil Abloh’s The Ten as the standard against which everything Jordan does now gets measured, and he’s explicit about why it worked: timing, restraint, and genuine craft intersected. Off-White was at the height of its cultural momentum when Nike partnered with Abloh, and the collaboration applied subtle reworkings — Abloh himself described it as roughly a 3% change — across a spread of classic silhouettes from different eras of Nike’s history, including the Jordan 1, Air Max 90, Chuck Taylor, and Presto 00:07:26. The result read as simultaneously nostalgic and new, which Sykes considers the rarest trick in sneaker design.
His caveat is important: he resists the idea that Nike just needs to find “another Virgil.” He describes this kind of moment as lightning in a bottle — something that emerges from a confluence of a designer’s cultural standing and the brand’s willingness to hand over real creative control, not something a company can manufacture by searching for a talented collaborator and copying the formula 00:08:52. That’s a meaningful hedge against the easy narrative that Nike’s problem is simply a talent or partnership gap; Sykes is saying the ingredients are partly circumstantial and can’t be reverse-engineered on a release calendar.
This is also the frame he uses to evaluate the hiring of Greg Betty into Jordan Brand’s streetwear division. Betty’s track record at Vans — designs like the Chanel-referencing souvenir model or the travel-charm sneaker — shows an ability to pull from varied cultural reference points and generate real heat, even while Vans itself struggles elsewhere, with its core vulcanized product line underperforming 00:12:19. Sykes points to an early signal of this working at Jordan: an all-black triple pack of the 14, 15, and 16 released with accompanying merch on a new platform sold through completely 00:13:18. He treats this as encouraging but preliminary — a hint of the kind of design magic Nike needs, not proof that it’s been bottled again.
Where Nike actually has momentum: women’s basketball and running
Away from Jordan, Sykes identifies two categories where Nike’s sport-first pivot under Elliot Hill shows real traction, though with different ceilings. Women’s basketball is the clearer bright spot: signature shoes tied to Caitlin Clark and A’ja Wilson have sold through in multiple colorways, which Sykes attributes to genuinely engaged fan bases rather than general basketball-shoe demand 00:17:50. He flags the A’ja Wilson shoe specifically as having crossed over into everyday streetwear, not just courtside use, and notes the broader category depth — Sabrina Ionescu’s shoe reportedly being the most-worn shoe across both the NBA and WNBA, with a Paige Bueckers signature model coming 00:19:22. Sheena adds a useful corrective here: basketball has never been a large revenue category for sportswear companies generally, so even strong performance in this niche shouldn’t be mistaken for a company-wide fix 00:19:44.
Running gets more qualified praise. Sykes cites double-digit sales growth in the category from Nike’s own earnings commentary as a genuine sign of progress for a division that’s been stagnant 00:20:36. But he’s quick to temper this with the competitive reality: the marketplace has gotten crowded, and the moment that best captured who currently owns elite running culture went to a competitor — an Adidas-sponsored runner’s record-breaking sub-two-hour marathon, a feat Nike could not claim 00:21:06. Sykes argues that casual, everyday running demand still favors Nike’s recognizability, but that cultural dominance at the top of the sport — the record-setting moments that generate headlines — currently belongs to someone else, and rebuilding that requires winning actual races over time, not design choices 00:22:00.
Recovery products round out the areas of strength, anchored by the Nike Mind clog, which Sykes calls arguably the brand’s most coveted release of the past year despite not being a sneaker at all — he notes it remains hard to purchase, with people regularly asking him how to get a pair 00:23:15. He’s careful to size this opportunity honestly: recovery items like $250 hyperice slides are niche, premium-priced products aimed at serious runners rather than mass-market buyers, so the category is more a signal of brand relevance than a volume driver 00:24:13.
The self-inflicted wounds: oversaturation and abandoned retailers
Sykes locates part of Nike’s current weakness in decisions the company made to itself, not just shifting taste. He names three franchises — the Dunk, the Jordan 1, and the Air Force 1 — as having been run into the ground through oversaturation, the same dynamic now playing out with retro Jordan colorways more broadly 00:26:21. The pattern he describes is a brand leaning on proven hits so heavily that the hits stop functioning as hits, because scarcity and desirability are mutually dependent and Nike spent years undermining the former.
The second self-inflicted wound he raises is retail relationships. Nike’s decision to scale back ties with retailers like Foot Locker, Finish Line, and smaller independent shops cut the brand off from the local, community-level spaces where sneaker culture actually got built and sustained over decades 00:26:51. Sykes treats this as more than a distribution footnote — those retailers were where cultural buy-in happened at the neighborhood level, and severing those relationships meant losing presence in exactly the communities that made Jordan and other Nike lines feel authentic rather than corporate.
He does credit Elliot Hill with trying to repair this during his roughly two years back at the company, prioritizing those retailer relationships again 00:27:08. But Sykes frames this repair work as foundational rather than transformative — necessary groundwork that doesn’t itself generate the cultural spark Nike needs. In his view, fixing distribution and relationships only clears space for a hit; it doesn’t produce one.
What a real turnaround requires, and why Sykes doubts it’s close
Asked what it would actually take to convert renewed interest into healthier underlying business performance, Sykes draws a distinction between finding a cultural win and managing it properly once found — arguing Nike’s historical failure was less about a lack of hits and more about mishandling the ones it had, citing again the Dunk, Jordan 1, and Air Force 1 collapse under oversaturation 00:26:15. The implication is that even if Jordan Brand or another division produces a genuine cultural moment soon, Nike’s execution discipline, not its creative pipeline, is what will determine whether that moment compounds into sustained growth or gets squandered the same way.
Sheena pushes him for a concrete signal to watch, and Sykes’s answer is notably skeptical of near-term optimism: he doesn’t expect meaningful change within the next quarter or two, and suggests the turnaround narrative, already long-running, likely has years left to play out 00:28:09. His preferred indicator isn’t sales figures or earnings commentary but aftermarket resale premiums — how much a shoe trades for above retail on platforms like StockX or eBay, which he treats as a purer measure of genuine desire than sell-through numbers alone. By that measure, the Royal Jordan 1 currently trading near retail price rather than commanding a markup tells him consumer coveting simply isn’t there right now 00:28:37.
Both hosts end by contextualizing the stakes: Sheena notes Nike still outpaces its nearest competitor by at least a billion dollars across most categories, a reminder that “struggling” is relative for a company of Nike’s scale 00:25:18. Sykes doesn’t dispute this, but he resists using it to soften his timeline — he explicitly says he’d be surprised to see the turnaround materialize soon, while allowing that by roughly a year out there might at least be visible early signs of an upward swing, a hedge that leaves the question open rather than resolved 00:29:34.
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